When life throws you a curveball, it is a call for an adventure.
I’ve known Margie for years. We met at various conscious business or health & wellness festivals and events. She always struck me as the most passionate and energetic person in the room. Margie is a lymphatic drainage and remedial massage therapist, author, award-winning herb expert and Qigong instructor. She always got new things to share and explore. I love watching her talking to people and laughing with them. The Margie I know was full of beams and always BUSY.
Then, she disappeared from the scene for months. I read some of her Facebook posts and heard that she got sick. I wasn’t sure about the details but was aware that she was overseas for quite some time.
After many months of no news, I saw her recently at a business event. Margie is back!
But before I got to talk to her personally, I was just watching her across the tables and I couldn’t help but noticed her skin was glowing and she looked “different” as in younger and healthier. I know for sure she has bounced back, I just didn’t know what happened and what she did to “make it back”.
We finally caught up at the end of the event and I was amazed by her story and results. I was thrilled to invite her to come to my show and get her to share her story with us. So here it is my interview with Margie:
- A passionate and energetic health care practitioner who got sick and had to stop all work
- From constant headaches, brain fog, pain & ache in joints, poor sleep to perfect health again
- What is Lyme Disease, symptoms and causes
- Her journey back to health
- Oxidative Stress
- Anti-ageing effects
- A silver lining in the mess: a new business, better skin and hair!
- It’s not about selling but sharing a woman’s journey on health and prosperity
If you would like to get in touch with Margie please go to www.NatureHealth.com.au or connect with her on Facebook @ Margie Hare
Sze Wing: Hi, everyone. I am so happy today because I want to talk to Margie. And we know each other for a while now. So for those who don’t know her, I will have a very quick short introduction. So first of all, I will say, really, she has lots of different skills. So I’m just going to list them out here, but we’re going to talk something more specific in a minute. So first of all, she’s a highly-skilled aromatherapist. She’s a specialist in manual lymphatic drainage and remedial massage therapist. She’s an author, award-winning herb expert and Qigong instructor. She’s also the founder of NaturalHealth.com.au. She’s basically a professional in the health and wellness industry who is one of the most energetic and passionate people I met. And every time I ask her, “How are you going?” she would say, “Oh, well, I mean, it’s busy. It’s crazy.” And to be honest, I never expect Margie is going to tell me, “Oh, I’ve just got nothing to do.” So I love her energy, and she’s always 110% in anything that she does. So I’m really excited to talk to her today to hear about her new adventures. So welcome to my show.
Margie: Thank you, Sze Wing. It’s lovely to reconnect with you.
Sze Wing: Yeah. We met quite a few years ago, and at different events. We always had a great chat. And I remember she also sold some herbs from her organic garden, which I love. She had all these beautiful things around and she is in so many different modalities. I always like trying to pick her brain whenever I see her. It has been a while. we have sort of taken different direction our hero and heroine journey. And I think one of things really wanted to talk to you about is that I know you were unwell for a while, and then you pick up something new and it becomes your new emphasis, so to speak. I really want to hear the story from your side and also share with our audience what happened. Because you obviously was in the health and wellness industry, so you know how to look after yourself. And I know you had some challenges. So tell us your story.
Margie: I did, Sze Wing. And I always kept pretending that I was feeling okay, and I was actually not okay. And it started with just a little cough, then it went to a cold. Then I got flu. Then I got an infection in my lungs. And so on over a period of three to four months. I got really unwell, and I’ve never, up until that point, had not taken antibiotics for years. I mean, I can last remember … because of the infection, I couldn’t get rid of it, and it was getting worse. I went on at least three different antibiotics. Nothing worked. But sadly, they did not do any blood tests. I was that unwell I couldn’t work. So I thought, “Well, maybe I’m just burnt out. Maybe I’m depressed.” So I said to my friend who was living in France at the time … She and her husband were going bike riding. And I said, “You know what? I would love to come and house sit your house, look after your garden whilst you’re away.” She said, “Fantastic because I want you to do that anyway.”
Margie: So off I did. Got my visa and off I went to France. But of course, I went with pneumonia. And I arrived, not in the middle, but at the end of winter, but it was still freezing. And I got worse. I didn’t get better. And another three months, that’s not better, that I’ve had this condition that’s worsening for now nearly six months. And I was going there to get well and rest. And my friend, who’s a friend of my friend, said, “I’m going to take her to my doctor.” Well, I didn’t know him very well.
Sze Wing: In France?
Margie: I couldn’t talk to the doctor because I couldn’t speak French. He had to talk to my friend and my friend was telling me what the doctor’s saying. So it was like a three-way conversation. Asked me a whole of questions. The long and the short, he did the blood tests, and he diagnosed me with Lyme Disease. So I was back in Australia on the Northern beaches with Lyme Disease. Well, I was horrified. Anyway. So obviously, the French people put me on an antibiotic. But I mean, I was committed. I had a whole lot of things that I was doing. I had people already book their flights to come over and visit me. So I persevered for another, I think, three months I was there. I was supposed to stay nine months, but I came home after six because I just was not well.
Margie: And I went from the airport to North Shore (hospital), and I was put on a drip. And about maybe a month before I left, I was bitten by the French tick, as well. So I came home with these great big knots from the tick. So I not only had Lyme disease and two different bacterias from the different ticks. So I had a double whammy of this horrible condition. And the symptoms are extraordinary because it’s like you’ve got a permanent headache that comes and goes. It just doesn’t release. You’re tired all the time. You’ve got aches and pains in every joint. Your head feels like there’s a foggy brain. I couldn’t remember things. If people gave me instructions, I would swear to God they didn’t tell me. It was a time that to be quite honest as we speak now, I don’t really remember because it was such a bad time. I couldn’t work. So when I got back from France, I couldn’t work.
Sze Wing: Yeah. And if I can just add something here, is that the way I know you, you were always busy. You’re always on the go. There’s always something you’re passionate to pursue. So I thought it must be, not just physically, but emotionally and spiritually very challenging. Because you’re clearly not yourself because, for months and months, you’re not able to do what you normally love to do. It would be a very big challenge. And for those who don’t know about ticks and Lyme Disease, can you tell us a little bit more about it so the people can really follow your story?
Margie: I can’t say Australia does not recognize Lyme disease because they do now. But before, they did not. But now, because there’s more and more, it’s a little tick that is in Europe and in America, there’s a little town called Lyme. They were the first country to recognize Lyme as a disease. And that’s in America. And in France, also, it’s carried by the deer in the forests. Shooting is huge there. There’s a shooting season, and the rest of the season, they breed. And then they shoot again. So the ticks are rampant throughout the forests in France. And we cycled and walked through the forest, so it’s not surprising I got two tick bites.
Margie: And so what actually happens, when the tick bites you when it’s a Lyme tick, they call it the Lyme moon, a big ring forms around the bite like a moon. It looks like a moon shape. You look at the moon and you see a ring around the moon, that’s what it looked like when it’s a Lyme ticks. And what happens is this bacteria, they breed in the cells, travels through the bloodstream, and it can sit anywhere. It can lodge in the brain. It can lodge in the joint. Any my one tick bite was up here. The other ones were here. But where my tick from the Northern beaches got me was on the back of my neck. So that’s why I got very serious … It’s called neuralgia. I didn’t know what that was. The doctor in France told me what that was. I’ve never heard of it, and I’ve never had it.
Margie: But that was probably one of the last symptoms to leave me. And I’ve been on the product now for one year and two months. So I can’t say it was rapid, but within about four weeks, I knew I was starting to get well. And that was such a relief. And then every month or so, I could feel things getting better and better. So the last two symptoms that cleared was the fogginess in my brain. I’m now sharp. I’m sharp like I used to be. Especially with electronics. Can you imagine when you’re not feeling well and your brain is foggy, and you’re trying to do computer work and learn new systems? That was very difficult.
Sze Wing: Yes. I can imagine that.
Margie: I’m on top of that now.
Sze Wing: So you’ve been diagnosed. You know what happened, and you know you’re very sick. And tell us how that all came together. Sometimes I think it’s a bit of fate, and it seems like you’re meant to get back on a new adventure. And you were healthy for such a long time, and then suddenly, this thing happened. And you really had to deal with it, and something like that came into your life. So that’s crazy and you had to deal with it. So tell us about the next act.
Margie: My friend, Trish, she heard that I had Lyme. And I hadn’t seen her for a long while. She phone me, and she said, “Margie, I hear you’ve got Lyme.” I said, “Yes.” I said, “I’m not very well.” And I said, “I’m not working at the moment.” She said, “I’ve got something I think you should take. It’s called Protandim.” Anyway. She told me a little bit about it, and it was a multi-level marketing product. And I said, “Trish, I really don’t want to do that. I’m going to go back and work in the clinic. I really don’t want you involved.” Anyway. She phoned three times, once a week, and in the fourth week, she said, “Margie, I’m not going to phone you again. You can stay sick. You can stay poor. And you’re very, very stubborn.” She put the phone down. Anyway.
Margie: I phoned her back, and I said, “Trish, I think you’re right. Maybe I am stubborn. Just give me the stuff.” That’s when my life turned around. It actually turned around because after being sick. I just came on as a customer. And after being on the product for a month, I phone Trish back and I said, “You know, Trish, I think I need to share this in my clinic.” Because I did the research, and in my clinical work, I’m a specialist of lymphatic drainage with the Doctor Vodder School of Austria, and my specialty is teaching and working with patients with lymphedema. So it’s actually lymphedema management. So it includes laser and massage and bandaging and all of that. But things like skincare, very important. Lifestyle, very important. Sleep, very important. All these things make up the bouquet to manage those patients well. And what this product does for my patients … It reduces oxidative stress by 40% in 30 days.
Margie: Now all the science is there to back the product. It’s on PubMed. You just need to go PubMed Protandim, oxidative stress and all the reports are there. So it’s a product fully backed by science, and that’s one of the key issues that I’m really excited about to share with my patients. And since I spoke to you and since you asked me to be your guest here, a couple more things have happened. Very exciting. Professor Piller is Australia’s leading lymphologist, and he’s based out of Flinders University in South Australia. So I sent him all the information. So, Sze Wing, something really exciting happened. I forwarded this information about the product to Professor Piller at Flinders University. Now he’s a professor who trains us as we qualify, and every time we research a file, which is every two to three years with the Vodder School, he is one of our lecturers. So we see him every two to three years for usually one or two days of lecturing. And he speaks fast, and he’s the most amazing person.
Margie: And so I sent him the information. I told him my story. And he said, “Margie if you can get some doctor or therapists on board with you, I will publish the case studies.” And I thought, “Oh, isn’t that exciting?” Now I had never done case studies. We had to do it in our training, but I had never done one since. So I went back and I said, “Okay. This is what I know the product can do. What would you suggest as the criteria?” And he came back to me with the criteria that we have to do, and I now have seven Doctor Vodder therapists who’s taken this product onboard into their clinics, and we’re doing case studies with Professor Piller in the Australasian Lymphology Magazine. So isn’t that exciting?
Sze Wing: Yeah. So I think I did work in the evidence-based industry for a while. Tell us a little bit more about since you took the product, in that four weeks that you decided to call your friend back and say, “Tell me more about it. I want to share it.” So tell us how your symptoms … how did you feel like? What happened to your body and mind? I think that’s interesting. I don’t think you haven’t talked about it yet.
Margie: So the first thing that I noticed was … Because prior to this happening, I’d never had headaches. I don’t know what it’s like to have a headache. Well, then I had permanent headaches. So within a month, the headaches had diminished to almost zero. So that was a big plus. I had continued broken sleep. And before, I could sleep on an ironing board. I never had an issue with sleep. And I’ve always known that sleep is very important, and I mean, half past 9:00, I’m horizontal. Sometimes I’ll read, but my light is off at 10:00. And I usually don’t get up until 6:00. Even if I wake up, I’m horizontal. I don’t get out of bed until 6:00 because that is the body’s repair time. And if you go to bed later than that and you wake up earlier than that, you’re cutting off your body’s repair time. And that means eye health, it means heart health, brain health. All the internal organs, that is the repair time. So it’s really important to have proper sleep. I think because of that six to eight months when I was so ill, I had such terrible sleep, my poor body was finished. I was exhausted.
Margie: So once I started feeling better … And then the third thing that a lot of people feel is energy levels. So because of this horrible bacteria, you feel constantly tired. Even when you’ve just woken up, you still feel tired. You don’t have the energy to go and do what you really need to do. So those are three major things that happened. And obviously, the brain, that took longer. The actual clarity of mind and concentration, and to focus on two or three things at one time, I couldn’t do that when I was so ill. But now, I can have my mind on three things and be quite clear with clarity on what I’m doing.
Sze Wing: So tell me a bit more about this product. It helps you with the oxidative stress, did you say early on? How does that help you?
Margie: So in a non-too-sciency way … So do you know what oxidative stress is?
Sze Wing: Tell us.
Margie: So if you can just imagine an apple that’s a beautiful apple. You cut the apple in half, and this half you eat and it’s beautiful and crispy and gorgeous and white and beautiful inside. This one, you leave on the sidewalk, and that apple turns brown and then it gets all rotten. The same happened with a beautiful red tomato. Over time, that tomato gets and gets soggy and awful. It isn’t a beautiful ripe tomato. That’s exactly what happens to our cells. Oxidative stress is what comes in from the outside. So it could be something like the air we breathe. So anyone living in and around Sydney today will certainly have oxidative stress in their body because of the quality of the air. Where I am, I’ve closed all my windows because smoke is everywhere. But I mean, even if it’s not the smoke from a fire, it could be pollution. Just ordinary air pollution. It is electromagnet interference, whether it’s your mobile phone or your computer or the TV. All of that. All oxidative stress. The quality of water that you drink. Some people drink water right out of the tap. That is oxidative stress going straight in the body. Chlorine and all the other stuff in tap water. So quality water’s very important. Obviously, the other important one in oxidative stress that comes in from the outside …
Sze Wing: What about food? Pesticides, chemical preservatives?
Margie: That’s exactly right. It’s the food that we eat. And that’s why when people say, “Who should be taking Protandim?” Anybody over the age of 25 because 25 is when the cells are at their peak and then they start degenerating. So when you’ve got a cell that starts degenerating, when that cell subdivides, the same thing happens. The cell divides as a broken, damaged cell, not as a perfectly beautiful apple or tomato. When you look at a car that’s old and rusty, that rustiness is what happens on the internal organs of the heart, of the lungs, of the liver, of the kidney, of the brain, etc. So Protandim Nrf2 is the flagship of the company, and it activates the pathways in the cell to reduce oxidative stress on the body. So it acts as a detoxing agent. So when people start taking it, in their first maybe week or 10 days, they might get a headache. They might get a runny tummy. They might be a little bit tired. That’s the oxidative stress being removed from the body, allowing the cells to repair and restore.
Margie: And that’s why during that period, from then on, if people pay attention to their sleep, they pay attention to the quality of food and make sure they eat as organically as possible, not putting chemicals into their body and so on, then by taking the Protandim, they will continue to be removing the oxidative stress on an ongoing basis. And restores their cells to that of a child. And that’s been proven.
Sze Wing: So is it like a bit of … not only anti-aging, but it’s almost like reversing some of these ageing processes, in some way, on a cellular level.
Margie: Our company is at the leading edge of what they call biohacking the cells. It’s actually about the genes, reprogramming the genes. Because this is not a supplement that you take. It’s an activator. And Nrf1 is the activator that opens the pathway in the mitochondria and the mitochondria concentrations in the brain, the heart, and the liver. Three very important organs for the body.
Sze Wing: So is Protandim a mineral, or is it a protein? Or what kind of substance it is?
Margie: It’s an activator. So this is at the leading edge of science. There’s nothing like it on the market. And let’s say, for instance, you’re thinking about Nrf1 or Nrf2, just to give you an example. Nrf2 is a completely … the ingredients are completely natural. There’s ashwagandha, bacopa, green tea, milk thistle, and turmeric. Those are five very common, ancient herbs that have been used throughout the ages. So some people might say to me, “Oh, but I already take turmeric. Oh, I also have green tea every day.”
Sze Wing: That’s what I was about to say.
Margie: That’s what they say. But what it is is in the science that they’ve put together … and it’s actually Doctor McCall is our scientist who put this product together. He has received many accolades. In fact, Graham Bell, one of those famous scientists from way back, he got the same award. Because the Nrf2 is actually a pathway in the cell, and they didn’t know … They knew the pathway was there. It had been discovered, but they didn’t know how to activate it. Now they can activate that cell, but it’s actually the synergy of the patented formula that allows that activation to be optimum. So when you take the individual items, you might get one or two or three or five … and I think with turmeric, it’s 8% is the highest activation you can get taken individually. But when you take the formula, which is patented, it’s 36% activated. 36% higher. 18 times more.
Sze Wing: So essentially, the herbs … So this substance that we’re taking in a patented formula portion, they are herbs, essentially, right?
Margie: Completely natural. And it also has the BACG certificate, drug-free. So this product enables because it has this fantastic cellular repair going on, athletes and elite athletes and people who are doing volleyball training and swimming and cycling and all of that, even just for personal trainers … People who are training so that they can be the best version of themselves, what this product does for them, it reduces injury, it speeds up recovery and allows them to perform at a better rate.
Sze Wing: Is this suitable for pregnant women? That’s really my top concern.
Margie: I beg your pardon?
Sze Wing: Is this suitable for pregnant women?
Margie: Well, now that is something you would need to check for yourself. I can’t say to you, “Yes, you can take this as a pregnant mum.” Because all these five items are absolutely fine, and the same way if someone says, “Oh, but I’m on a cancer journey. Can I take it?” We can say, “Yes, it’s absolutely safe, but you need to check with your practitioner.” We can’t say, “Yes, you can.” Because scientific tests have not been done on that particular issue. Yeah? So we know it’s safe, and we’ve had pregnant people taking it. We’ve had lots of kinds of people. In fact, Trish, who introduced me to the product, she’s been taking this on her journey. So we know it can be taken, but it’s not something that we … We don’t profess to cure, heal, mitigate any diseases whatsoever. What we can tell them is that this product is proven to reduce oxidative stress in the tissues, in the cells by 40% in 30 days.
Sze Wing: So how long you’ve been taking this so far? Because I think from listening to what you say, over a year then.
Margie: What Doctor McCall has recommended and has come out in the trials that he did before it went to market, he recommends that if you are … You should take the product or the formula, which is Nrf1, Nrf2, and the Probiotics. So it’s three. Because most people who are unwell have got issues with their gut. And the gut and the brain are so linked together. So the three of them together is the actual synergy that we’re looking for optimal health. And that’s what our company is all about. It’s about optimal health. So what is your question? Sorry, darling.
Sze Wing: So you’ve been taking it for over a year. I was curious to hear, apart from getting rid of the symptoms … because it can actually have reversed effect on anti-aging or your cell. I want to hear, do you feel different with your skin? And is this something that you’re supposed to take long-term? And things like that.
Margie: Well, with regard to what Doctor McCall says, he recommends that for every decade of life … so if you’re 30, you take at minimum three months. And if you’re 50, for five months. Now I was 63, so I made sure I was on it for seven months before I took a decision to stay on it or not. And I had actually made up my mind before six months that I was going to stay. So I’ve been on it now for one year and two months. And I have no intention of coming off, that’s for sure.
Sze Wing: I know that you talked about the symptoms from your previous diseases that you felt really sick. So once those symptoms elevated, did you see other improvements? I imagine your skin would be better because oxidation really affects our skin and also renew our cells, right?
Margie: Absolutely. And this is a big issue with my lymphedema patients. The quality of their skin, because of the lymphedema, because their lymphatics are compromised, their skin is compromised. So along with the Protandim Nrf1 and 2 and the Probio, we have a beautiful skincare range, which has this anti-aging formula within the range. I mean, I don’t know whether you can see my skin, but I tell you people say to me, “Oh, but you look so young.” But I’ll tell you what I have noticed. The wrinkles that were here, I call them laughter lines, are reduced. But I’ll tell you what else, is the pigmentation. That has reduced substantially.
Sze Wing: Oh, my god. Since my first pregnancy, I have pigmentation, and I haven’t found anything that really can help me. I’ve done some laser. I’ve done facial and masks and stuff. Oh, okay. So hopefully, our audience is all ladies, so they may be interested in this. But I didn’t find anything that can help me, and I know it’s hormonal because they only came … I have some pigmentation here since my first baby, and so now I mean, I think you know … do you know? That I’m having my second baby at the moment, so I’m like, “Wait! I’m waiting for this to be over. Just what kind of pigmentation I’m going to get this time and then deal with it later.” Because there’s no point to do something about it. I was thinking of laser or particular masks and stuff like that. There’s not much point for me until they all came out. I’m just waiting.
Margie: So tell me, how far are you with your pregnancy?
Sze Wing: Three months.
Margie: Three months. Okay. That’s interesting. And the Probio, how is your gut health? Is that on time?
Sze Wing: Good. I take probiotics. I mean, I take multivitamins and minerals. I take probiotics. I have blood tests regularly. So I’m generally healthy. But you can never overdo the anti-ageing.
Margie: I know. And I must say, the skincare has been a great, great benefit. I don’t know whether you remember me from before. Did you remember how thin my hair was and how short my hair was?
Sze Wing: I remember that. I think the last time I saw you, just a couple of weeks ago, I think your skin is definitely brighter. I wasn’t sure were you having make-up like foundation or something else, but smoother, more polished.
Margie: I don’t have any make-up on.
Sze Wing: More polished than what I remember you. I don’t remember the hair because I think you have shorter hair or something. I don’t remember. But the skin is definitely better … I thought you were clearer when I last saw you. Definitely.
Margie: Yeah. And in the haircare range, is shampoo, conditioner, but the serum. The serum is absolute magic. They have the formula in all three products. But the serum, even though we’re not allowed to say technically that it helps your hair to grow, but I’ll tell you your hair thickens up, it repairs the damage in the follicle, your hair becomes shinier, so easy to manage. The hair care is, for me, fabulous. I just love the hair care. So it’s a very small range. It’s just the skincare, the hair care, and obviously, our flagship product.
Sze Wing: I just want to mention here that, for me, I love to interview you because I know you have come through an ordeal with health crisis and challenges, and you came back strong and happy and well. And I know you’ve come into this new business adventure, so that’s why I wanted to interview you to let people hear your journey. Because I know you before, and I know you were very sick for a while. But now you’re back. So for those who are listening in, this is really not about trying to sell products. We actually never talk about this before. It’s not about promoting anything in particular. That’s never really our intention. But I think people can hear you that you are really passionate about it because it helped you. And so for people who have experience with diseases and can relate or just like me, I’m always look out for anti-aging products and I’m interested to hear.
Sze Wing: So I just want to make clear here that it’s really not about selling products right here in this podcast. But if you’re interested, of course, come in connect with Margie. But it’s more about sharing what she had experienced. Because as I had mentioned in the very beginning, she’s on the most energetic and passionate person I know. And I know that she stayed down for months, disappeared from the scene. And then I met her recently, and when she told me what happened to her, I thought it was a really good story because, for those who are passionate about a business, a passion and unable to really fulfil your calling, it’s really painful. And to see someone came back strong, I thought it was really empowering. So that’s why I really wanted to bring you on the show. So yeah, I’m really excited, and I could see you really happy last time I saw you.
Margie: I am. And it’s just allowed me just to be who I am and share the gift of health and wellness, which is … that’s my website. Nature Health. That’s what I do.
Sze Wing: Yeah. So that’s actually perfect zig way because I am going to wrap this up. So how can people find more about what you do and the product you mentioned? What’s the best way to connect with you?
Margie: I don’t mind my phone or email or website or Facebook.
Sze Wing: Well, website. Let’s start with the website.
Sze Wing: And now we’ll post a link on this blog post and podcast, as well, so people can see it for sure.
Margie: I’m really happy for them just to email a question and I can help answer that.
Sze Wing: Oh, Facebook, as well. You mentioned that. So people, when they message you …
Margie: Yeah. And so Facebook would be Nature Health or Margie Hare. So I put my business page as Nature Health, and my personal page is Margie Hare. So it doesn’t matter. H-A-R-E.
Sze Wing: Yeah. I will put the links at the bottom, as well, so people will be able to access it easily. Well, I just want to thank you for coming on my show and sharing your story. And I mean, if people can’t feel your passion and enthusiasm, I will be very surprised. And I’m really happy that after quite some time not being in the scene, and now I see you come back strong and healthy. I’m really happy for you. And all the best with your new business venture.
Margie: Sze Wing, thank you so much. And I’m very excited about this new little bundle of joy that’s coming into your life.
Sze Wing: Yeah. Well, just before I stop recording, I was actually quite sick. But I know it’s part of the journey, so you appreciate everything. Do you remember last time when I interview you a few years ago? I was exactly in the same place. It is so hilarious. I was in France. I was interviewing you. And before that, I was also sick. Anyway. And we are really happy with the second baby, so yeah, thank you.
Margie: And you know what? It’s lovely to have two little ones together.
Sze Wing: Yeah. I think so, too.
Margie: Sze Wing, thank you so much for inviting me. I really do enjoy this time together.
Sze Wing: Yeah. So thank you for coming, and all the best.
Margie: Thank you, Sze Wing. Take care. Thank you.