120. A woman’s worth: Interview with Dr Kelly Schuh

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A woman’s worth is such an important topic. I know many women who are so comfortable in giving, helping and nurturing others. But when it comes to receiving, for example, asking for a promotion, pay rise or even accepting a straight-up compliment, they may find it uneasy. When we are not open to receiving, we are playing small. A woman’s worth is not measured by how much we sacrifice, but oddly enough, it has something to do with how open we are to receive and to shine.

About our guest Dr Kelly Schuh

Dr Kelly Schuh is a Worth & Wealth Alchemist for female coaches, consultants, and visionaries. She is the “Sales Whisperer”, an Amazon Bestselling Author, Speaker and Yahoo! Finance Top Biz Coach in 2021. In 2009 she pioneered the sacred sisterhood of Pink Tent International (now over 14,000 strong), the first women’s online community of its kind. Her body of work has been featured on Jamie Fox’s Foxxhold Radio, PopSugar Magazine, Fox31TV, Channel 2 and many other media outlets.  

Interview Highlights

#1 – Introducing Dr Kelly Schuh, outlining credentials as a best selling author, speaker and business coach. (00.39)

#2 – Defining ‘Queen of Worth’, helping women find their inner worth; the importance of self-worth in business (02.48)

#3 – Masculine versus feminine; combining spirituality and strategy to achieve success (10.36)

#4 – Relating the idea of receiving to money and worth; practising gratitude and shifting focus (14.35) 

#5 – Human Design Chart – combining four ancient traditions to help women. tap into intuition; applying this to business decisions (20.18)

#6 – Aligning the brain with the body; transitioning from chiropractic to coaching (25.37)

#7 – Flexibility in working style; one-on-one versus teams versus solopreneurs (26.46)

#8 –  Balancing movement and stillness; the importance of downtime for productivity (36.53) 

If you want to find out more about Dr Kelly Schuh’s work, please connect with her via:

Facebook: Queen of Worth™Sisterhood Instagram: Worth & Wealth Alchemist™ (@drkellyschuh) LinkedIn: Dr. Kelly Martin Schuh | LinkedIn Youtube: Worth International – YouTube

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Sze Wing : 00:02 Hi, everyone. I’m really, really excited to finally talk to one of my – I don’t know how to put it – favorite guests that I really wanted to interview for a long time today. We have Dr. Kelly Schuh with us. And so obviously she’s not in Australia, although I think she has clients in Australia, but we met a while back and I just connected with her and I really wanted her to come onto my podcast interview. So here we go. We have Dr. Kelly today. Welcome.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 00:35 Thank you. Hello. Hello.

Sze Wing : 00:39 So, first of all, let me do a very quick introduction for my audience, who may not have heard of Dr. Kelly Schuh -but actually many of you may have know her if you have been around. I mean, especially with women in business, online business you may have actually heard her, or heard her speak, or maybe even went to one of her programs before. So, her introduction; Dr. Kelly Schuh is a worth and wealth alchemist for female coaches, consultants, and visionaries. She’s the sales whisperer and Amazon bestselling author, speaker, and Yahoo Finance top biz coach for 2021. So that’s a really great thing. In 2009 she pioneered a sacred sisterhood of Pink Tent International; now over 14,000 strong; the first women’s online community of its kind. Her body of work has been featured on so many media outlet like Jamie Foxx Foxxhole radio, Pop Sugar magazine, Fox 31 TV channel too and many other media outlets. So I’m really excited to talk to her about many things today. So welcome again.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 01:54 Thank you. So happy to be here.

Sze Wing : 01:56 So, first of all when I was preparing for the interview, I was really curious about – or like really stuck by the, the hashtag #queenofworth. I really like it because there’s the sense of, you know, not just a woman or girl; a queen, you know, someone who has confidence and certainty. I feel like I’m interviewing real royalty in that sense. And I think it’s something to also talk about women’s courage and saying that using this hashtag is something. So first of all, what inspired you to create this hashtag and sisterhood? And maybe tell us a little bit about your story leading up to this emergence, I call it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 02:48 Yes. So Queen of Worth. So Queen of Worth really came from this place of my own discovery around self-worth, especially as it relates to money and sales and even love. I think many years ago when I was trying to find the love of my life, you know, really what I realized in that journey was who I needed to become, was a woman who really owned my inner worth. And so the actual hashtag #queenofworth came later on in my journey. You know, I coached women in love for many years. And so I would have them claim that, you know, ‘I’m worth it’. Right? And so anyway, it was kind of born out of that, in the beginning, of helping women to claim that they were worthy of love. And then that translated to business because as a woman owns her worth, and her confidence and the gifts that she’s here to sharethen she is able to really bring in the love of her life; the ideal clients, like whatever it is that she is wanting. I believe everything is energy.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 04:01 And so our outside world is reflected by our inside world. So for me, the queen is a benevolent queen. She’s not a take ’em off, you know, copperheads. I mean, she’s very much – the queen is one who knows her domain, and she’s confident and humble actually, and she’s really here to serve. So that’s what it means to me. And that’s how it was born.

Sze Wing : 04:26 I really love it. And you know, a lot of these things translate as you first startup, maybe in the relationship area, but it is essentially applicable across relationship, business and all that. And so sometimes I think women may not realize that they have this, I don’t want to say problem, but we are having this issue of self worth. And it shows up in different ways, right? Sometimes people may not feel like asking for a pay rise or even asking for a babysitter.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 05:03 Yes.

Sze Wing : 05:04 You know, little things like that. So I know you talk about this story a thousand times, but I really love your ‘double, your rate’ story because when people from the outside looking at Dr. Kelly Schuh, they wouldn’t think you would have a problem with worth or asking for the right amount of rate or whatever. So tell us about that story because it’s very applicable for a lot of people in their daily life.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 05:32 Yes. So I was at a point in my business as a coach; I was about five years into this, and I was $130,000 in debt. I had a five-year-old daughter. And we had gone from a dual income family – my husband and I – to a single income family. Really, my husband was very much supporting me. And we reached a point where even though I had the Amazon bestseller, I had the community – from the outside I was looking really successful; Dr. Kelly, yeah, she’s done this, and she’s created the course, and she’s done launches and all the things women are are told to do. And at the end of the day, literally more money was going out by the time I paid my website person, and my coach, and this and that. I was at a point where I was ready to give up, and I didn’t wanna give up. But we would’ve potentially lost the mortgage.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 06:30 And so it was a real turning point in my life. And I had been working with this coach. And we had been working for a couple months, and I had worked with tons of coaches. But this particular day she said, ‘You know, Dr. Kelly, here’s the deal; if you want to create big change, I dare you to double your rates’. And my heart sunk, and you get those little butterflies in your tummy. And I thought, she’s crazy. She she’s absolutely crazy. Like how would anybody, why would anyone pay twice as much as what I’m charging? And she said, ‘You know what? You have what so many women have; you over give, you know? And you give, give, give, give, give. You have a huge heart. You want to make a difference, but it’s just not working for you. So she asked me, ‘What’s the worst that can happen?’

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 07:25 I said, ‘Well, I guess people say no’. And she said, ‘Absolutely’. So she challenged me for 30 days to double my rights. And I remember I got off that call. I said, yes, that I would take on the challenge, because I love a good challenge. The first person I shared it with was, of course, my husband and his first response was ‘You’re crazy’. And I said, ‘I know, I think she’s crazy too’. But it was sink or swim. I mean, I needed to either quit and finally give it up after five years or go back to chiropractic. And I love chiropractic. So that was the year I doubled my rates; I tripled my business. And the real gift was who I became on the inside. I became the CEO of my dreams. I knew that it was that internal journey that would make all the difference. And so that was the day, the moment that my life changed.

Sze Wing : 08:23 And isn’t it – that was the moment it felt like when you did this, it felt like the queen was born, wasn’t it? Because that was —

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 08:32 The queen was born.

Sze Wing : 08:33 Like you really —

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 08:34 And the crown was really heavy. I was like, oh my gosh, I don’t feel worthy of a crown. So I’ve had to grow into the queen. I’m still growing. I still have growth edges.

Sze Wing : 08:45 And I think they say, the day you become too comfortable in your crown is actually the day when you are maybe too proud, or you no longer have your feet on the ground, is the moment when you feel, ‘I could do this’. Like as in with that attitude. But having that, it’s actually helpful. You know, read books, watched a documentary about Queen Elizabeth; even when she first added the crown, she was also freaking out.

Sze Wing : 09:13 Exactly.

Sze Wing : 09:14 It’s normal. But I love the story, because my work is often connecting the internal, the intuitive, the feminine wisdom; what we know what the universe around us is – the ritual side of things. But also strategy, the real work that is smart and effective. And I think I don’t want to analyze this, but in a way, it felt like, you know, you had the groundwork, you done the work, you have the program.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 09:41 I had done so much work.

Sze Wing : 09:43 You have done the groundwork and that’s a good foundation. So when that [indistinct] when your internal, you know, stepping up, when you feel, yes, I can charge double, then every thing clicked together and things were successful. But without either, like, if you didn’t have the foundation just tripling, or doubling, or even adding $20, it’s not going to change anything, because you have to have both, right?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 10:10 Exactly.

Sze Wing : 10:10 And that’s what I found the beauty of it. And I think that’s what you do in your work; you help women build the foundation and the actual work, but also the spiritual side, internal side.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 10:23 Absolutely.

Sze Wing : 10:23 That’s why it’s a recipe for success. It’s both; I call it two half into one whole.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 10:32 It is. Actually, as you say that, I see like a heart, right?

Sze Wing : 10:35 Yeah.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 10:36 It is a beautiful marriage of the masculine and the feminine. And so I love that feminine space of meditation, and guidance, and that inner game and the spiritual piece. Right. And that is married beautifully with strategy. And if we can bring those two together; the divine masculine, the divine feminine, that’s where the real magic happens. And I see so many female entrepreneurs that all they know, or all they think to go to is one or the other. And I see programs out there that rely too heavily on one or the other. And these women think that, you know, strategy doesn’t work or meditation doesn’t work. And really it’s that beautiful dance; it’s that dance of honoring the masculine and the feminine. And what I tell women, is to lean back; like we are meant to receive, we are receiving beings and that relates to that worthiness piece.

Sze Wing : 11:36 Love it. A hundred percent. And the sacred union; the divine masculine, divine feminine is within us as well as in a conventional marriage. Right. So beautiful stuff. Now, in more practical terms, we talk about this maybe a bit in an intellectual way of looking at this concept. So in your work, when you work with women, as you said, many people are give, give, give, give; they don’t know how to ask or receive – sometimes unconsciously, sometimes consciously. Because they think, ‘I can’t do that’. So what’s happened? What happened to us? Since when have we become like this, or more practically, how can we put a stop to it? You took a five year pivot, like this sink or swim moment, but maybe let’s try to think about something we can do so we don’t have to wait until that moment.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 12:34 Absolutely. So, your question is what would be like a baby step?

Sze Wing : 12:37 Yeah. Baby step or help people to see, ‘Oh, I’m doing this. I need to consciously name it, claim it and change it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 12:45 Absolutely. So one of the simplest things that a woman can do, what I find is part of this receiving; we need to build our muscle around that. And so many women reflect back likecompliments, acknowledgements, right? Like if you said, ‘Oh my gosh, you look beautiful today’, instead of taking a moment to really receive it, many of the women that I work with, they’re fast to give it back; ‘Oh, you look beautiful too’. Right? So the very simplest thing of noticing when someone’s trying to give to you; it’s a gift, it’s a smile, it’s an acknowledgement, it’s a reward. To take a moment to pause and really receive it. And that’s one of the baby steps that I teach my women, you know, to just start noticing where the universe is wanting to give to you, and it is giving to you, but you’re doing one of these, ‘ I want it, I want it, I want it, but no, no, no. Maybe I’m not worthy’. And so that really is a baby step, is I tell women, ‘Start to receive what already, the universe is giving up to you, and yet you’ve been blocking it or reflecting it’.

Sze Wing : 13:55 I love it. Because often when we do this, once we hear what Dr. Kelly, you just said, when we say, ‘Oh, no, you’re beautiful’. Then you suddenly realize, oh, I’m doing it, because sometimes we don’t even realize we are doing it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 14:11 You don’t even realize it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Sze Wing : 14:14 And how would people say – okay, let’s say, I just met you, and that sounds great. So how does it translate into money then? Like, you know, receiving compliments; I get that. How does it translate into our money and worth in your mind? How do you explain to people when people ask you that?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 14:35 Yeah. So how it relates to money, money and worth, is that there are certain practices that we know, when done consistently, we’ll create and generate more money. So the simple thing is, as you could tell from my story is, I was challenged to double my rates – and that’s not necessarily a recommendation that I would make to somebody, but I tend to do things big, and I jump in and make big changes. But again, the little things. So some fundamentals will be gratitude, right? The universe isn’t going to serve up more money if you’re not really grateful for what’s already here. So gratitude is one of the practices that we know consistently helps to open up the container and the capacitor to receive. The other thing is, look at the relationship that you have to money. And what I tell women is fall in love with money, like it were your lover. And why do I say that? Is because how we relate to it, it really is a relationship, and that which you focus on and pay attention to expands. So it can be the smallest things like paying your utility bill; like being in real gratitude and being like, ‘Oh my gosh, I love to pay my bills. I love to pay my taxes’, because I’m getting something in receiving around that, and then paying attention to your money. So we have people that are, avoiders like, ‘I don’t want to look at the bills. I don’t wanna look at them’. Taking a moment and really start tracking. So every single day, like even in the beginning, if you make a point to like, look at the money coming in, if it’s not there, imagine it being there. So we need to focus on money so that it can expand.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 16:23 So basic money principles. Like if you had a lover that you never paid attention to him or her, are you really going to sustain a relationship? No. Like it gives some give and take, so you’ve got to be willing to focus on it. And if you’re looking at the bank account and it’s not where you want it to be, be grateful for where you are But imagine where could you be; set a mini goal. Okay, 30 days from now, if I could increase my income by 10%, what might that look like? Well, maybe you could sell a bunch of shoes that you don’t use anymore. You know, I mean, it could be a number of different things. So gratitude; fall in love with money like it’s your lover. Knowing that money won’t buy the happiness, but just by merely bringing focus to it, it will expand. And acting as if – focusing on what you do want, not what you don’t want. So those are just a couple things as we relate to money

Sze Wing : 17:17 Totally makes sense. And I love the gratitude piece and it’s so relatable, because in our storywhenever we get a capital tax bill —

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 17:29 Yes.

Sze Wing : 17:29 Which is, you know, my husband, ‘Oh my God, the tax is so much. It’s only this much left after they take away tax’. So he go on, and on, and on. And it’s true, right? But I was, ‘Listen, you’ve got tax to pay, because you have this income to come in. So even though that doesn’t feel good to give that bit away, you still have this much to appreciate’. But how often do we not focus on this, the one that we can keep; we focus on how much we have to give away.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 18:04 That’s such a great point. Yeah. And I remember years ago, learning that as humans, as human beings, we have a survival brain. Right. And so what we often will bring more energy to, is avoiding pain versus seeking pleasure. So said differently, when it comes to money, it is said that if you were to ask a group of people, and you would say, ‘Where would you put more energy? Would you put more energy into keeping a thousand dollars that you know, someone is trying to steal or go out and make a thousand dollars?’ And m people would say, ‘Oh my gosh, no, if I know they’re gonna try to steal it, I’m going to do everything that I can, that they’re not gonna steal it’, versus just go out and make it. That key distinction is the, am I coming from pain, avoiding the next step of tax bracket? Or am I just going to go out and make more? Like, honestly, I’m not kidding you; I love paying taxes.

Sze Wing : 19:12 The more you pay is better.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 19:13 Right. If my income goes to the next level and they increase my tax bracket, it means I made more money.

Sze Wing : 19:19 Exactly.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 19:19 Fantastic.

Sze Wing : 19:20 Yeah.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 19:20 And so anyway, it’s like, how are we relating to those things? Are we coming from abundance, and what you want, and pleasure seeking, or are you coming from the pain, and survival, and fear, and scarcity? So that’s a big distinction there.

Sze Wing : 19:35 It’s so important. And that’s why, I guess we are coaches, and we work with coaches, we have coaches, friends, and that’s what we are here for. Because to be very honest, not every husband or wife would tends to think this way, but when you work with a coach, we tend to look at it differently and it makes all the difference, because then I remind myself, next time when this conversation comes up, focus on what we get to keep.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 19:58 Yes. Absolutely.

Sze Wing : 20:00 Okay. My next question. So I’ve got wind about you have this amazing prosperity cycle, breakthrough session that it’s about human design, chart reading for prosperity specifically. So I don’t know much about it, but it sounds super cool. Can you tell us bit about it?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 20:18 Yes. Oh my gosh. This is like the insider, insider. So currently I don’t actually do any marketing around this. I generally leave it for my high end clients. But let me tell you what it is; It is the prosperity keys for business. And what it is, is I do a reading for the human design chart. And the human design chart is a blend of astrology, and the Kabbalah, and the energy centres of the system and the I Ching; so four ancient traditions, all brought together in one. And so I am able to look at a woman’s chart and determine, first of all, how can she more accurately make decisions in her business? I can actually look at the circuitry and go, you need to do this, this and this. And so it really helps her to really tap into her intuition or however she’s wired.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 21:16 So if you can make clear, more accurate decisions in your business, things will just flow. We’re also able to look at how she specifically is designed to make money. So we give her a money mantra that she can go into meditation that specifically will activate and ignite her ability to create a quantum leap in her wealth. And then the other thing that we look at is structure. Some women are meant to be one-on-one in structure in their business model, some women are meant to be more in partnership, some people are meant to have huge teams. So instead of trying to build something that somebody tells you to build it, we actually look at what are your unique fingerprints in the universe, so that you’re delivering your purpose of why you’re here and doing in a way where the cash comes easily, because you’re working from how you were designed to work. So it’s funny that you ask that big because it is something that I’m starting to leak out a little bit. But right now I do those readings just for my high ends, but I just started doing them for $350 a session for someone that really wants to fast track.

Sze Wing : 22:23 I guess you’re, kind of, just testing it now, isn’t it? Because it’s like something so amazing. And I mean, I can see how this could be really helpful. It’s like if you know your blood type, is it useful?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 22:37 Right. Exactly.

Sze Wing : 22:38 If you know your unconscious pattern, especially about what you are afraid of, or what you’re good at, that’s super useful. This is kind of like that, but specifically for money, prosperity. And I think it’s super juicy and fun. Thank

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 22:51 Thank you.

Sze Wing : 22:52 I mean, I can’t believe you are offering it, like, standalone in this accessible way. That’s why I said, I got wind.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 23:07 Yes, it’s so funny. It’s, like, ‘Wow, i can’t believe she’s asking that’. Because i’ve been using it with my high end clients for about a year. And somebody asked me – no, you know how it started leaking out; it started leaking out because I was in a holiday gala. And there was a woman that asked me, she goes, ‘Would you be willing to give one of those things that you’ve been doing your high end clients?’ And I was like, ‘Yeah’. So it raised money as a fundraiser for grant money for female entrepreneurs. So that’s how this whole thing started leaking out. But it’s profound. It really is profound.

Sze Wing : 23:37 But isn’t it the best way? Instead of we sometimes like trying to have campaigns and launches; they, they have their place, right. We have to do the groundwork so we know how it works. But sometimes it’s just like the universe saying that, ‘Hey, Kelly, do more of those because that helps people’. Like has to be one of those things.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 23:54 Exactly.

Sze Wing : 23:54 But I think it’s really exciting, because I just tapped into astrology maybe over a year ago. I mean, I’m not using it to a tee, but I love to know little bit more about the planetary movement, the pattern and how that impacts me. For me, it’s really interesting just to give me some heads up on why am I feeling this way? Or when things may start moving; it really helps me. I mean, I’ve been already doing sort of the feminine cycle productivity planning for a long time, which is observing the moon and your inner cycle. And that it felt like it’s just kind of chatting with your sister and cousins altogether, right?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 24:31 Yes. Absolutely.

Sze Wing : 24:32 This is amazing. So I really love it and I know it’s a bit of a secret, but I couldn’t help myself, but to get some inside goss. But I think it’s really exciting. I don’t know much about I Ching, but I know a little bit about astrology. And I didn’t know you can combine them all together, but I think it’s just beautiful.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 24:52 It’s so cool. It’s so cool. Yeah. To be able to look at a chart. And what so many women will say is they feel honored, and really heard, and it confirms what their intuition has been saying. And yet maybe they’ve not been following it. And when you don’t follow – when you try to show up in business or in life in a way that you’re not designed to, you’re gonna be frustrated, you’re gonna be angry, you’re not gonna make the money. So it’s like all these roadblocks get put up by the universe. And yeah, these readings are like a deep confirmation. And most of the women that I work with are pretty – they’re, they’re very awake women. So to see it, it’s like coming home, if that makes any sense, like, ‘This makes so much sense’.

Sze Wing : 25:34 Totally.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 25:37 And it really aligns a lot. You know, in the past,I was a chiropractor. That’s where the doctor comes from. And I tell women, so my job as a chiropractor really was to align the brain with the body, and the body with the brain, so the body could do what it was meant to do. It was a realignment. And now I’m doing it energetically with women, and money and their business. I get them realigned. And then it flows. We don’t have to work so hard. I think that there needs to be a breakdown of globally, how we do business. And we really have been taught a more patriarchal way, which is about competition. It’s about profits over people. It’s this idea of scarcity; there’s not enough for everyone to be abundant. And I really love idea of, what if we were to do it a different way? What if we were like aligned with our purpose, and collaborating, and really being compassionate about people and that we’re all different? And so I love seeing that unique spark and that fingerprint, and then getting that all in alignment.

Sze Wing : 26:46 I love that so much. That’s why I was so excited to interview, because I feel a lot of things that we do, and say, and believe are very similar, that alignment. And how cool is that you are a chiropractor and training in a medical scientific way, and then now you are aligning using different methodology, different vocabulary, but essentially we are alignment. It’s all we talk about. And what I love about what you just said was, you know, you talk about some people may love to work one-to-one, and some maybe groups, that you want to work with teams, some people like to be a more solopreneur. I think it’s so important to give yourself that sort of, that’s who I am or what I like, and that will work. Because a lot of coaching out there says, so you do this, you do that, and that’s how you can scale. So that is this very structural, very masculine way of how to succeed.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 27:36 Yes.

Sze Wing : 27:36 And then some people are just not suited for even talking in front of the camera, you know, like thinks that everybody have to do videos. And then you’re like, oh, I’m a loser because I don’t want to do videos.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 27:47 Yeah.

New Speaker: 27:48 But then if you know who you are, you don’t have to give yourself that pressure.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 27:52 Yeah. Yeah. It was really important for me to create something that allowed for that uniqueness, because I think that everyone has a purpose on the planet and we all have a unique fingerprint. And so when we can unlock that and have a coach really hear you, like deeply hear what your needs are and what your strengths are, then the way is shown very zen-like. And I remember being in a high end mastermind; this was years ago. And I joined the mastermind because I was ready to pivot from the work that I was doing to what was in my heart for the new thing that I wanted to do. And I fought, and I fought – I say, fought, like energetically the coach – again I spent $25,000 just to get at the table. And so here I am in a table of maybe 10 women in Hawaii.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 28:43 And this coach was like, for two years is telling me, ‘No, it’s the old business, go back to the old business. Like you were so successful. Why wouldn’t you?’ And so I know what it feels like to be trying to like forced into something that your heart’s not in. And so I had to suffer so that my clients don’t have to suffer. And so I don’t believe that there’s a one way fits all. As you said, some people, they’re natural in front of a camera, and there’s other people, they’re like strategists that, you know, can in the background, crunch numbers. And to be honored, to really be honored is what t- hose are the women that I’m here to serve. I call them sacred rebels. It’s like, we know we don’t fit in and we’re of coaches trying to tell us like, ‘Oh, you know, you have to follow this process’. So there’s many ways to success. And I really honor, deeply honour a woman’s unique gifts and her journey.

Sze Wing : 29:40 Well, I mean, thank you for being at that table and sharing your struggle because here’s the thing; when you paid that much money, you have to sort of believe that person or the system on some level. And you have to detach to say ‘That doesn’t work for me’. That’s hard, to say that’s not for me. It’s like you’re in a relationship, it’s kind of okay, but it’s not really feeling right, and you have to break up all of the blue and you’re, like, ‘I can’t do that’.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 30:06 Exactly.

Sze Wing : 30:08 So hard.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 30:09 Yeah. And here’s the other thing; it’s like within that group, I was sold okay, everyone at the table is making at at least six figures or above. I show up and find out there’s probably of a group of maybe 10, maybe only including myself, a couple other women. Like the parameters that they said, they didn’t honor them. And so I’m a stickler. If I were to have a rule like that, like you have to at least make six figures to be in this group, like I’m going be a hardass around that. Like, I really honor integrity and word, and that broke my heart too. And so anyway, as you said, it can be really hard when there’s someone so much further down the path, that’s trying to tell you to do something that your intuition is, like, no, no, no, and it’s screaming and it’s fighting. And we, as women, we often do this; we don’t honor where our intuition is, like, no, this is not right. And so, you know, I say that business is a sacred, spiritual journey, and it truly is. So the lessons that I learned in those two years, I had to learn not only for me, but the women I’m now here serving.

Sze Wing : 31:19 Wow. I love it. Okay. So to wrap this up, I have a few rapid fire. I know you asked this question to your community and I want to hear you answering it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 31:30 Yes.

Sze Wing : 31:31 OK. First question; what can you do now that you could not do a year ago?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 31:39 Honestly surrender like never before. And I might get teary eyed. It came from the moment I had just found out my mom had cancer last year. And it wasn’t even 24 hours later. And my go-to when I process emotions, is meditation and running or yoga. And I went out fo my run; I just had to process. And I fell and I broke my ankle, and literally, boom, I’m grounded, like physically grounded, emotionally grounded. And all the tears came. And I realized how vulnerable and helpless I was in that moment, and that I couldn’t fix this one; like, it wasn’t my job to fix it. And so last year was one of the toughest years of my life, without going into it. Spirit really told me, like forced me to stop so that I could learn to receive on a totally different level; very feminine. Because I’m an inner warrior, like I’ll make things happen. And it was the first time in my life where I couldn’t make things different. I had to really be with all of the emotions and everything. So I now can say that I can – not that it’s easy – I have had an experience of surrender, like never before.

Sze Wing : 33:05 See, running, meditation, movement, stillness. We live in a duality; you have to honor both. And sometimes we think we want to do this, but you actually need to do this.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 33:20 Exactly.

Sze Wing : 33:20 Funny you said that; I had a similar story a few years before your story. Similar thing; that’s my dad. And instead of running, I just kept working. I have three jobs. I just worked, and worked, and worked until I got pneumonia.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 33:38 Oh, yeah. Exactly.

Sze Wing : 33:41 Running, stillness.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 33:44 Yes.

Sze Wing : 33:44 We learn from it, because then you kind marked by this experience. So there’s beauty in it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 33:50 So there is such beauty in that. Yeah. It’s that feminine.

Sze Wing : 33:54 Yes.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 33:54 It was a deep honoring of the feminine that I always say, if you’re not getting your lessons, the universe will make sure that you are. So I say, you know, like let’s get it earlier so that we don’t have to struggle so much, because we really don’t have to struggle as much as we struggle. If we can catch the signs earlier, it just creates more grace and flow. And it doesn’t mean that life isn’t going throw you curve balls, because it will. But yeah, really honoring that there’s a time to be still.

Sze Wing : 34:24 Yes. Okay. Last rapid fire.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 34:27 Yes.

Sze Wing : 34:27 So this one is from me. What makes you truly happy and feeling fulfilled these days?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 34:35 That’s a good one. Well I’ll tell you something totally new, that’s really fun. I now go to something called it called – it’s a float tank.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 34:49 I was trying to come up with the words, sensory deprivation tank. And it looks like a tomb. Like it’s so weird. It’s like this thing with water; it’s warm water and you float in about a foot of water, it’s salt water.

Sze Wing : 34:59 And the cover it, right?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 35:01 And the cover goes down. And you can listen to music if you want, and you can have it lit up if you want. I go for total blackness; no sound, no nothing. And 90 minutes goes by like that. And I have been putting this in my schedule now one to two times a month. And I’ve been using it around the moon; so I’ll do new moon or full moon. And that place of truly letting go and receiving all the channeling and all – like, I don’t have to do anything. And I’ll tell you, it goes by so fast. I think this month I might even try to do a back to back because I love just being in that place of nothingness

Sze Wing : 35:41 So you, you don’t get scared? I get scared.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 35:43 No, I love it.

Sze Wing : 35:44 So you’re in a tank; you’re floating. You can’t drown? It’s not deep enough; you cannot drown in this?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 35:51 You can’t drown in it.

Sze Wing : 35:53 Okay. Okay. It’s perfectly safe. Total darkness.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 35:57 Total darkness.

Sze Wing : 35:57 You don’t sleep?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 35:59 Sometimes I fall asleep, but a lot of times I journey. I have kind of this shamanic journey; things come to me.

Sze Wing : 36:09 Music, no music?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 36:11 I choose no music. In the place that I go, you could have music. But it’s like being in the womb, it really is.

Sze Wing : 36:19 Wow.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 36:20 And I love – I’m very sensitive. And the older that I get, in some ways I become more sensitive, because I see things; I’ll see colors, I’ll see energies, I’ll see a lot of things. And to have such a sensitive system, when things are coming at you all the time and it seems like the world’s going faster, and faster, and faster, to give myself that gift of nobody needs me in that moment. And I don’t need to do anything or be anything; that I can just float. That’s my new place to supercharge.

Sze Wing : 36:53 Wow. That sounds amazing. I may need to try that. I yin yoga. So at first I hated in yoga, but then as I older, I started to like it. But then what happened was, I found that my best content or program comes out after yin yoga class. Like I literally just – oh, maybe I should do that, oh, maybe I should do it like this. And suddenly things just flow. And so then I start to go yin yoga all the time, because I think – taking notes after; I take a notepad, because I’m going to have ideas. So it was so productive. It’s crazy.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 37:30 Absolutely, it is. I know Wayne Dyer, I followed him for years and he would talk about the gap. And the gap can be even just that moment where the in breath stops, before you take the out breath. And it really is. That really is a metaphor. That tank time is the gap, right? And often the magic happens when you’re not trying to make things happen. Again, it’s very feminine and it’s such a gift. So generally when I come out of the float tank, I take my journal. And there’s a little back room, and I’ll journal. Like the other night, there was a snow storm. And my daughter calls me, it’s like 9.30 at night. And I’d been there for, at that point, almost three hours, because I was journaling. I was getting all of these downloads. So the gap is such a – and whether it’s yoga, or just quiet time, or for some women – or some people it’s playing music, listening to music. It can be a number of different things. And as American culture; Americans in general, I don’t think we’re very good at being still, so it really is a reprogramming of valuing that downtime.

Sze Wing : 38:34 Beautiful. I think it’s the perfect place for us to wrap up this call. And so now we talked about a lot of very interesting things, and I think people would love to get in touch with you. So what’s the best way for people to connect with you online?

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 38:49 Yeah. I would say right now there’s so many different ways, but if you go to my Instagram account, you can follow me @drkellyschuch; it’s just my name. And we’re constantly posting things. We do have a group it’s a free group called The Queen of Worth Group. And we’d love to have you and have your voice in the room if you’re a female coach, consultant that just wants to be in a sacred sisterhood, like, energetically held in your grace. We would love to have you join our community. So that would be The Queen of Worth on Facebook, group and then Instagram,

Sze Wing : 39:26 I will put the link on the show notes, so people can go to both to check it out. So thank you so much. Today has been a wonderful conversation.

Dr. Kelly Schuh…: 39:37 Thank you.